Note: glNewtonSceneBSP is is a merging of Sascha Willems's glNewtonScene3DS, glNewtonRagdoll and Jan Horns BSP Demo.

I can't get the ball to collide with the BSP world, im guessing where the bsp is rendered is different to where the collision thing is..... source attached.

To get the demo to run u need the following files

glNewtonScene3DS:
Newton.dll
data directory

Q3BSPbasic:
maps directory
textures directory

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Please use newton's debug output features (see my demos, the vehicle one has them) to let you show the actual collision geometry. This way you can easily say if the collider is at the right position.

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well... after implementing ur collision showing thingy the program just hangs and no frames are ever rendered.....

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What Newton-DLL were you using (since you didn't include it)? I've put one in the directory (size = 368 KBytes) but the project gives ma an access violation (even after commenting out the debug stuff).

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the one with glNewtonScene3ds(im guessing v1.2), since the new one wouldn't work and since i know vertualy nothing on newton, i have no clue what was changed(in the new dll) to cause this.

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I guess that's why debug didn't work. I've just went through the sources and saw that you removed the cdecl behind the debug callback, so that can't work. If I remember correct. that was a wrong declaration in the old newton header itself, so it's not your fault. I'll update the demo to the newest newton version (1.3) and upload it. I'll also mark what I've changed in the source so that you can easily follow on what has changed.

Edit : I was correcting your sources, but there are so many errors in it that I'd take me some longer, so I don't know when I'll have the time (and motivation) to correct it. One of your biggest faults is the fact that you haven't taken into account that Q3-Faces are normally NOT only triangles, but of any shape. But when building the collision tree, you only overgive the faces as triangles which is totally wrong. So if you fix that, it may work.

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EDITED: seems like it does have more than 3 points per face......

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And that's what I said : A trianglefan is not a triangle. In your code for building the tree collision, you always only use three vertices of a face. That's wrong, as some faces have more triangles (to build the triangle strip), and newton needs all those vertices to build collision data. After doing it that way, I at least see the correct collision data.

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the only face that seems to have collision is the ceiling...... everything else the ball goes through.

To make the ball spawn above the ceiling:


EDIT: does the order u supply the vertex's in change anything? i.e with rendering it determins which side is visible (well with cull)



the ball goes through the top of the box, and collides with the bottom...

EDIT2: reversing the order of the faces doesn't work, stops the box in the corner from having any collision.

EDIT3: above edit is wrong (made an error int he code), the collision thing should be the following (note: not all the faces have collisions, iv only noticed the roof and the box in the corner having collision):



EDIT4: last edit did it, the problem was that the size of the ball was too small for the world (if im correct sometimes it had to much downward force for its size, so it jumped past the collision bit since it was so small. Increasing its size fixed the prob.).

What do i need to modify to make the ball move faster?

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Do you know what the face atribs of NewtonTreeCollisionAddFace are? (i can't seem to find any documentation on Newton..... only got about 6 results in google with the term NewtonTreeCollisionAddFace.....)

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I guess you mean the last parameter. For newton it does nothing usefull, but you can use it to identify for example the material of a certain face in a callback and then decide what material settings to use for that face. I do that in my car demo, where e.g. the grass triangles of the scene have a different material than the ice triangles. Now in the collision callback with the tyres, I can check wether the tire collided with ice or grass and override the default material settings.

And as for the ball passing through : Since newon doesn't do (yet) substeps, it may help to set a higher simulation for the physics simulation. The default for NewtonSetMinimumFrameRate ist 60, so you may set that value higher (try something like 300) and it may work then.

And making newton faster : Just make the timestep you set in NewtonUpdate bigger (note that newton clamps certain values that are below min and max threshold). Or try to implement accumulative timestepping for physics simulation, that way you always have correct physics behaviour (the QPC-thinggy won't always work) and can set the speed of your physics by hand. I now also use that in all my demos and it's the best way to go about physics timing.

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I ment when the user presses the cursor keys. Im guessing id ned to do something with the following:



Latest Source(Includes all files): -Download(700kb)

Im guessing its ok to include ur sphere texture (u only said not to distriburte the sky tex in the readme).

P.S to incorperate ur boyancy demo into the mix would the code need to be updated to the latest dll, or do u think it would work fine with 1.2(i think)

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Hi Stucuk and Sascha Willems

You made a very nice work with glNewtonSceneBSP
I'm able tocompile it. The only probleme is when i try to run it via Delphi
Thats give me a error

Project glNewtonSceneBSP.exe raised exception class c0000005 with message 'access violation at 0x1000241f read of address 0x00000000.

and if i go at the address 1000241f (Search->Find Error) the error are located in Newton.NewtonBodyGetMartix

But if i try to direct execute glNewtonSceneBSP.exe everything work ok

Anyway good work
Stucuk and Sascha Willems do you have Msg or ICQ i need to communicate with you direcly.

WarLock

MSN: Stuc_uk_2000 at hotmail.com (its at the bottom of my posts, the msnm button thing)



It will(i think, not having a german version i can't tell ) be the decimal point error germans have.... forgot about it....

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I'm testing your glNewtonSceneBSP demo and it's is what hi see

Your not using the latest version of Newton Header and Dll
So i decide to try to test it with the latest version

Download the latest header: http://newton.delphigl.de/newtonimport.zip
Download the latest Newton dll : http://www.delphigl.de/files/newtonplayground.zip ( in the Newton Playground demo of Sascha Willems )

Also you need to change smal thing to be able to compile

replace

by


and

by


After that everything compile but crash when executing.
The error are located in Newton.NewtonBodyGetMartix again

i'm interested in this demo like you can see and looking for a fix

WarLock